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Danim wrote: 05 Apr 2023 15:56
shipbiulder101 wrote: 05 Apr 2023 15:33 Already reflagged to Bahamas so yes.

What, not registered in St. Peter Port, Portsmouth or Saint Malo but to a flag of convenience! Ah, even though the company is part owned by a subsidized Brittany Ferries and Guernsey State has propped up the purchase it is OK. Seems another ferry company off the hook!

You can't register a ship of this size in Guernsey, our ship register is only for small yachts
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northsaul wrote: 14 Apr 2023 10:19
Danim wrote: 05 Apr 2023 15:56
shipbiulder101 wrote: 05 Apr 2023 15:33 Already reflagged to Bahamas so yes.

What, not registered in St. Peter Port, Portsmouth or Saint Malo but to a flag of convenience! Ah, even though the company is part owned by a subsidized Brittany Ferries and Guernsey State has propped up the purchase it is OK. Seems another ferry company off the hook!

You can't register a ship of this size in Guernsey, our ship register is only for small yachts
Why is that?
 
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jack wrote: 14 Apr 2023 12:47
northsaul wrote: 14 Apr 2023 10:19
Danim wrote: 05 Apr 2023 15:56

What, not registered in St. Peter Port, Portsmouth or Saint Malo but to a flag of convenience! Ah, even though the company is part owned by a subsidized Brittany Ferries and Guernsey State has propped up the purchase it is OK. Seems another ferry company off the hook!

You can't register a ship of this size in Guernsey, our ship register is only for small yachts
Why is that?
Found this on their website ( https://harbours.gg/Part1-British-Ships-Register ):
The Registry is open to vessels, currently up to a limit of 150 gross tonnage (as ascertained under the Merchant Shipping (Tonnage) (Bailiwick of Guernsey) Regulations 2009, particularly pleasure yachts.
Vessels intended for commercial use (up to a maximum of 24 metres loadline length - ITC69) can be registered but must comply fully with the Code of Practice for Small Commercial Vessels and manning requirements. Further details on the Code of Practice can be obtained from the UK Maritime & Coastguard Agency.
To qualify for registration, the majority of shares in a vessel (33 of the 64) must be owned either by a British subject or a company registered in and having its principal place of business in a British Crown Dependency or Overseas Territory. Foreign nationals may own up to 31 shares in a vessel, provided that the remainder of the shares are in 'qualified ownership'. Any shares jointly owned by qualified and unqualified owners count as unqualified shares.
Registration of a vessel under 'Part I' of the Merchant Shipping (Bailiwick of Guernsey) Law, 2002 gives legal title to the vessel, recognition as a British ship and enables other transactions such as mortgages and Court Orders to be registered on the vessel.
It is the same for Jersey.
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jack wrote: 14 Apr 2023 12:47
northsaul wrote: 14 Apr 2023 10:19
Danim wrote: 05 Apr 2023 15:56

What, not registered in St. Peter Port, Portsmouth or Saint Malo but to a flag of convenience! Ah, even though the company is part owned by a subsidized Brittany Ferries and Guernsey State has propped up the purchase it is OK. Seems another ferry company off the hook!

You can't register a ship of this size in Guernsey, our ship register is only for small yachts
Why is that?
Recalling the incident with the British-registered Stena Impero when it was hijacked by Iran - it was up to the nation state that registered it to recover and protect it. If something happened to Condor Islander under the flag of Guernsey then what will Guernsey’s non-existent navy be able to do?

I guess a real test case will come when the Cyprus is called upon to send its navy up to protect the plethora of vessels flying under its flag in Northern Europe.
 
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Marine traffic is showing tonight that the condor islander is on its way to Papeete.
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jamie1608 wrote: 18 Apr 2023 23:32 Marine traffic is showing tonight that the condor islander is on its way to Papeete.

That’s quite a voyage for a modest ship, hopefully with fair weather. Presumably that stop indicates her fuel range? Does anyone have an idea of who will be crewing her? Is this taken on by Condor crew or is it usually subcontracted in some way? 
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Over the past 24 hours the Condor Islander has transited the Panama Canal and is now into the Caribbean. Next stop Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic.

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I suspect there will be one more stop for 'Condor Islander' before she arrives at the Astander Shipyard in Santander in mid-June for her refit.
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The condor islander in now showing on marine traffic it’s next port is Santander 
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jamie1608 wrote: 28 May 2023 18:37 The condor islander in now showing on marine traffic it’s next port is Santander 

As posted above, that is where she is having her refit. Expected in around 10/15 days.
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Condor Islander has left Santa Domingo, bound for Santander. ETA expected on June 14th 11:00 (Local Time)
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Condor Islander passed 250nm North of the Azores at around 20:00 on Thursday evening bound for Spain, she is due to be drydocked at the Astander Shipyard from June 12th until July 30th.
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BFMunchkin wrote: 09 Jun 2023 01:53 Condor Islander passed 250nm North of the Azores at around 20:00 on Thursday evening bound for Spain, she is due to be drydocked at the Astander Shipyard from June 12th until July 30th.

Thanks for the update. That's quite a long docking, must be quite a lot being done?
 
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The Straitsman was looking on latest interior-pictures and reviews / reports full OK - but maybe Condor want now a really "upfresh" (?).
Maybe also engine-overhaul, complete cleaning and new-painting... (?). And paperwork for new regulations, safety, registrations etc. .

Furthermore you get a cheaper price in yards generally if you give them more time. F.ex. to choose between 500.000,- in 4 weeks or 420.000,- in 7 weeks for the same work is possible. Maybe the yard has also other ships to do parallel now - and also Spanish school-holidays are starting soon (= some / many of the workers are away).

Let`s hope that they are doing a little bit more work interior so that the passengers are getting a nearly "new" ferry.
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Back in AIS range, plodding along at a leisurely 10 knts, ETA June 12th @ 1200
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Condor Islander is scheduled to arrive in Santander tomorrow (Monday) morning at 06:00 local time, she is due to move to Astander Drydock No.2 at around 12:00 midday local time.
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New Update regarding 'Condor Islander'

The ship will still arrive as planned on Monday morning at around 06:00, moving to the Astander Shipyard Berth at 12:00 (all local times)
She will remain there until June 26th when she enters Drydock No.2, and is due out of Drydock on July 27th
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Condor Islander approaching Astander at lunchtime today!

Images thanks to Jose Luis Diaz Campa.

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Condor Islander in Drydock No.2 at Astander, photos thanks to Kev Webber.

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Drone shots of 'Condor Islander' in Drydock No.2 at the Astander Shipyard, thanks to Kev Webber.

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Update on Condor Islander, pics from Kev Webber.

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Condor Islander Update, photos from Olly Futter.

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Condor Islander is due out of drydock tomorrow morning at 10:00 local time but will remain at the shipyard until Friday evening.
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She's looking good! Do we know when she will leave Santander itself and/or enter service?
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The Condor Islander is scheduled for berthing trials in both Guernsey and Jersey on Monday 31st July
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