With The Ferry To The EURO 2024 In Germany ?

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SCOTLAND is opening the Football-EURO 2024 in Germany on 14.june producing nice pictures from their fans in traditional clothes and helping the struggling German football-team in an easy group to come further to next round !
Favorite ENGLAND is starting 2 days later and if WALES win against Finland and Poland in march they start also on 16.june !

Sure the most interested people will choose any cheap flight to Germany - but also with car and ferry could be a solution.
I guess that the night-ferries in the nights before the matches could be full-booked fast... .

England has the first 4 games in Gelsenkirchen, Cologne, Frankfurt and again in Gelsenkirchen, later then in Düsseldorf and Dortmund - so i recommend a hotel in the region of Düsseldorf (Ratingen / Neuss), generally the most cheapest hotel-area in Germany outside from big fair-exhibitions and very attractive with 1000 pubs and bars in the historic city nearby the Rhein-river. From there you can reach easy all stadiums with car or cheap regional trains and travelling home to the hotel after the game.  

For Scottish fans it would be better to change the hotels and cities and follow their team from Munich via Cologne, Stuttgart to Berlin, because all these cities are far away from each other.
For fans from Wales a hotel in Hannover could be a good choice, easy to reach their game-cities Hamburg, Berlin and Dortmund from there and much cheaper than to stay in the other cities with football-stadiums.

Just to remember: There is still the cheap monthly 49,- Deutschlandticket in Germany for all regional trains, buses, metros, trams etc. . If you have an IBAN-number from your bank-account you can buy it in advance online or at your arrival-day in Germany personally at ticket-offices at central train-stations. Please note that this ticket is a subspription always - so after buying it for the month of june you need to cancel it again very soon. Otherwise they will take the 49,- from your bank-account also in july (and following month) until you cancel it. If you stay in july also in Germany then cancel it in 2nd week july for august. Cancelling is possible online or in the same ticket-office where you have bought it. Kids under 6 years are free. From 6 years every person need his own Deutschland-ticket. Any pre-bookings of trains / seats are not needed and is not possible. Important: If you check all the train-connections on the website bahn.de - for to get shown all trains with Deutschlandticket-validity, set a cross in "Nur Nahverkehr". Otherwise you will get shown expensive ICE-highspeed-trains which you can not use with the Deutschlandticket. 

You have no luck with getting tickets for the stadiums ? Try it with "neutral-tickets" also, the Germans will not be interested in Scotland-Hungary or England-Slovenia f.ex. . 
The most bigger cities offers big "public viewing areas" / "Fanfest" also with XXXL screens, bars, beer-garden etc. similar as it was in 2006, look at the pictures. So if you like big parties don`t miss the biggest party in Europe in 2024. Think England will win the title for first time since 1000 years and you are at home alone with your TV ?
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Secret-tipp for to reach easy the "Schalke-Veltins-Arena" in Gelsenkirchen: The train-station Gelsenkirchen is very small and maybe overcrowded, overloaded and much more and bigger trains are going to the much bigger cities Essen and Bochum. From Bochum Hbf. (central-station) you can take the underground-tram 302 directly to the stadium in Gelsenkirchen. Or from Essen Hbf. you take the underground-tram 107 to Gelsenkirchen-city, there change into the 302 to the stadium.
Or with car - it is very complicated in these "1000 cities and 1000 motorways" region in West-Germany ? No - there are the both very big 6-lanes-main-motorways A 2 and A 3 from Hannover and Frankfurt - they go over in each other automatically if you just drive straight on through in Oberhausen. And the exit 6 on A 2 "Gelsenkirchen-Buer" is directly beside the stadium with a lot of parking-places. So just drive from your hotel in anywhere up to the next A 2 or A 3 cross or exit and then further up to this exit number 6. And with all other motorways in the region you have nothing to do.
In all other cities is going an "U-Bahn" (metro / underground) or a "S-Bahn" (commuter-shuttle-train) from train-station to the stadium.

Fun-fact: Who was the most often Googlet not German person in Germany in 2023 ?
Harry ! But not the Prince - it was Harry Kane, the captain of the English football team !
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So you advise the poor Welsh to go "nur Nahverkehr" between Hannover, Hamburg, Dortmund and Berlin? Enjoy! 
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I'd expect the majority of fans would sail from Dover or use the tunnel. Those that don't fly that is. Quite a few fans tend to camp at these events too. 

Some increased North Sea traffic is possible, but would it also see a reduction in German coaches coming to the UK at the same period? Are the German pensioners more or less likely to come over when the football is on at home?

For what it's worth, I don't think there will.be any shortage of interest in tickets for England matches. Too many well known players. Including Mr Kane of Bayern Munich leading the line.
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Risberg wrote: 26 Dec 2023 20:44 So you advise the poor Welsh to go "nur Nahverkehr" between Hannover, Hamburg, Dortmund and Berlin? Enjoy! 
I personally in case of the fans would prefer it to stay 10, 12 or 14 days in 1 hotel (or f.ex. with family in a holiday-apartment in beautiful Harz-mountains nearby) only and then travel to the matches as day-trips. And for this solution is Hannover the best location, usually with 1 train-change only to Hamburg, Dortmund and Berlin and mostly in modern double-deck-trains super flexible going every hour - and very cheap with Deutschlandticket. And in cheaper hotels because there is also overcapacity in Hannover since there was the World-Expo with "1000" new hotels. But if money doesn`t matters then people can better book hotels nearby all the stadiums and travel expensive between the cities with (often delayed, this year was the highest delayed rate ever) ICE-trains. It is depending of how much money the people can and want to spend for it. Just seen f.ex. today an UK-family with 6 kids + au-pair girl in the free Siam Mall bus, so this would be an expensive solution for 9 people... .
tumnus2010 wrote: 26 Dec 2023 20:47 but would it also see a reduction in German coaches coming to the UK at the same period? Are the German pensioners more or less likely to come over when the football is on at home?
Very good question... . I am sure that really many Germans who not "must" travel exactly in these 4 weeks will stay in Germany for to experience this very special big Event at home with family, friends, to enjoy the special feeling in the cities etc. and watch all games with German sound and German experts in TV. So there will be sure much more German tourists in the summer-weeks after 14.juli in other countries than before. 

Have checked a few known German tourist-coach companies, f.ex. Grafs Reisen nearby Dortmund and Polster-Pohl (from East-Germany) offers England, Ireland etc. in june/july also:
https://www.grafs-reisen.de/england-reisen/
https://www.polster-pohl.de/content/reiseangebote.php
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Similar also the big Coach-Roundtrips with flight to London and then through Ireland (via Fishguard and Belfast) with maybe English (or Irish ?) coaches from the cheap big Supermarket-chain Penny-reisen: 
https://www.penny-reisen.de/urlaub/Brit ... 9948X.html
Other known local bus-companies travelling in the past often to England has not announced it for this year, f.ex. Heess nearby Cologne:
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And in the stadium-cities are sure a number of coaches needed for the transfer of VIP groups (old former known players, UEFA-people etc.) between Airport and hotel, hotel and stadium etc. .

But on the other side all the stadiums offers much less places than normal - because standing-places are not allowed in Euro 2024.
So f.ex. in Dortmund are always 82.000 people in the stadium, but during the Euro only 61.000 ! So normally are then per match-day much less buses needed than on a normal Bundesliga-match-day. So there will be less coaches needed in Germany - not more.
The question is only, if the bus-companies from smaller cities will offer day-trips to the big fan-parties in the biggest cities. THEN really a lot of coaches will be needed.  
So my speculation: It will be in june and july 2024 less German cars, motor-homes and tourist-coaches in UK and Ireland then in the same weeks in 2023.


 
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The vast majority of people heading to the Euros will fly, it's a simple fact of life now.
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ropax wrote: 26 Dec 2023 22:53 And for this solution is Hannover the best location, usually with 1 train-change only to Hamburg, Dortmund and Berlin and mostly in modern double-deck-trains super flexible going every hour - and very cheap with Deutschlandticket. 
Nope, exactly between Hannover and Berlin there is not a single Regional train. The RE goes as far as Wolfsburg. 
Hannover has a direct metronom connection to Hamburg and one change (Minden) connection to the whole Rhein-Ruhr area. Though, it takes too long to go there for a match and return. If using Deutschlandticket, it's better to change locations for every match. The ticket is cheap nevertheless, so it's not a problem then to give a little more for accomodation. 
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I would not underestimate the flight-prices then, the days around a match will be the ticket-prices very expensive.
And especially to football-events a lot of people are travelling with friends and family also - so maybe 4 men in 1 car or 2 young couple in 1 car etc. - is then per person much cheaper with car and ferry than 4 flight-tickets. How is the situation in UK with private cars paid from the company for which the people are working ? In Germany really many people has got a Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagen etc. for free from the company - and the company pays all the fuel-costs for the people also who has office-jobs etc., also for their private trips.

Example: Someone is working for an insurance-company in Cologne or a chemical-company in Leverkusen and has got a company-car for free private use also, a "Firmenwagen". If he would drive at the weekend with 3 friends to a football-match in Liverpool and back with f.ex. his Mercedes C-class Diesel with a range of much more than 1000 km - all the fuel-costs would be paid by the company. He can fill his car 100% full in Aachen (if wished incl. canister also) and fill it on the return-way again full in Aachen - only petrol-bills in other countries must be paid self. So these 4 friends would have only to pay the ferry-ticket = much cheaper than 4 flight-tickets + transfer, parking etc. at biggest Event-days. The man of my sister has a similar car and they use it all few weeks for biggest family-trips for free through half Europe.

And the hotels in the stadium-cities will be really expensive, think alone how many rooms will be already needed for all the media- and press-people from all over the world. F.ex. if you see a TV-interview before / after the match with 1 expert inside the stadium, this means minimum 4 hotel rooms (for the camera-man, redaction-staff etc.) + minimum 2 rooms more for the commentator and his assistent. And all the other TV-channels and newspapers has also staff and photographers in the stadium. In some countries they have shared the TV-rights, f.ex. many matches you can see in Germany on 3 different channels parallel live, all with their own experts and crews / staff.

So especially with family a combination with "family-holidays" can be a good solution, f.ex. in the beautiful historic city of Goslar at the Harz-mountains - only with 1 train-change including Deutschlandticket to Berlin and Hamburg. And for football-games in West-Germany a hotel / holiday-apartment in Siegen would be also a good solution, with Deutschlandticket direct-trains to Dortmund, Cologne and Frankfurt.  
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There is cost but for most people the time involved in getting to Germany by ship is the deal breaker nowadays. They'd probably rather take a cheaper flight to somewhere hundreds of miles from where they need to be than even think about going by sea. I don't necessarily agree with that approach and obviously try to take the sea route myself where possible but it's just a fact of life.
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Maybe the ferries will be the only one solution... - just checked for fun 14.june (opening-game with Scotland) from London to Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Cologne - all flights super-expensive between 300,- and 500,-... = ca. 10, 11, 12 - time so much as usually.
Or to Memmingen for 110,- and then 2 days travel with Deutschland-ticket-trains to the Stadium.... 😃  to be in time for the first match from England and Wales on 16.june.
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